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PostSubject: Re: How disturbed was Nicholai?   Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:30 pm

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LOL Mass, all he did was kill dozens of his teamates, betrayed them and left them to die and mutate, but rape, omg that shit is just a game changer. No offense, but in my book, slaughter is a little worse than rape.

I was expecting people to see the sarcasm in my post.

I'd still say rape is at least on par with that as it was his job to get combat data by getting people killed.

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PostSubject: Re: How disturbed was Nicholai?   Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:39 pm

I would like to think that anyone who would be willing to kill and leave there team mates for dead in a zombie infested city and not give two shits would be a little messed up in the head. But hey, at least he doesn't have visions to unleah a virus wiping out the entire human race.
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PostSubject: Re: How disturbed was Nicholai?   Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:38 pm

The novels are not cannon, although they share a great deal of cannon from the games
but what you read in the books are just a author impression of what happens in between.
Though Nikolai was not that disturbed he was a little corrupt.
He was using his team members as pawns for Umbrella's research.
That to me is slightly normal, although that makes him a evil man.
To be honest murder and rape is very much on par.
Both a murder and a rapist share the same similarities mentally, as both will go against
there morals and commit such acts.
Murder and rape also leave others surrounding the victim(s) shattered, but with rape the victim needs to live with that memory and it defiantly haunts them for the rest of there life, almost mentally torturing them every waking minute.
I had a friend that got rape and to see the after effects is horrific, she was never the same happy and bubbly person I once knew.
She was also that scarred that she has tried multiple times to commit suicide.
She is doing much better now but that has taking years of recovery and she still is not 100% and I dont think she will every to, shame really Neutral

I dont want this to get into a debate but this is my opinion and I have seen both sides and seeing what it does to others surrounding this is awful.
I think they are both on par to be honest.
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PostSubject: Re: How disturbed was Nicholai?   Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:43 pm

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The novels are not cannon, although they share a great deal of cannon from the games
but what you read in the books are just a author impression of what happens in between.
Though Nikolai was not that disturbed he was a little corrupt.
He was using his team members as pawns for Umbrella's research.
That to me is slightly normal, although that makes him a evil man.
To be honest murder and rape is very much on par.
Both a murder and a rapist share the same similarities mentally, as both will go against
there morals and commit such acts.
Murder and rape also leave others surrounding the victim(s) shattered, but with rape the victim needs to live with that memory and it defiantly haunts them for the rest of there life, almost mentally torturing them every waking minute.
I had a friend that got rape and to see the after effects is horrific, she was never the same happy and bubbly person I once knew.
She was also that scarred that she has tried multiple times to commit suicide.
She is doing much better now but that has taking years of recovery and she still is not 100% and I dont think she will every to, shame really Neutral

I dont want this to get into a debate but this is my opinion and I have seen both sides and seeing what it does to others surrounding this is awful.
I think they are both on par to be honest.


I was aware that the books were non-cannon, just wanted to know how close it was to what really happened in game.

I'm sorry about your friend, god, that's so terrible. I don't know what else to say. Did they catch the guy that did that?


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PostSubject: Re: How disturbed was Nicholai?   Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:45 pm

Speaking of the novel canon, I wonder how that's going to work out if they really are going to have a character from those play a part in Damnation?

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PostSubject: Re: How disturbed was Nicholai?   Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:46 pm

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Speaking of the novel canon, I wonder how that's going to work out if they really are going to have a character from those play a part in Damnation?


Maybe parts of the novels will be considered cannon?
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PostSubject: Re: How disturbed was Nicholai?   Tue Jul 17, 2012 9:03 pm

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I was aware that the books were non-cannon, just wanted to know how close it was to what really happened in game.

I'm sorry about your friend, god, that's so terrible. I don't know what else to say. Did they catch the guy that did that?


Yeah the books are very detailed and are that well writing that you would think that would be cannon.
They do come pretty close but obviously you can just write the way the game plays out, with novels they need to connect everything, have back story's ,
persona's for the characters etc.
If not then you would fall asleep on the first chapter lol.
The difference with Stephani Perry was that by the way the books are writing she has either done vast research on Resident Evil or she was a fan of the games.
Either way you can tell this through her method of story telling and she actually novelises the characters and story very well.
Even her background story's on characters are very believable and would be perfectly suited for each individual and this makes people always question, is this cannon ?
That is a good thing, shows that her storyline's are that close to the story's in game
Should have had her directing Resident Evil instead lol Razz

Sadly no, it happened in a different town, so no connection and hard to trace whoever it was etc.
Such a same because now others are in danger in that area.
You dont need to say anything its okay lol
I was just showing my opinion on rape and murder, how the two have similarity's and such.

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PostSubject: Re: How disturbed was Nicholai?   Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:19 pm

I don't know if he is dead or not. I like to think he escaped in the chopper and that the real ending has Barry as that felt more befitting of the story of how Jill and Carlos got away, but Capcom need to bring him back in a new game. Operation Raccoon City took place in 1998 also, so that does not qualify. I mean, let us know if he survived, Capcom. Argh! Sad
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PostSubject: Re: How disturbed was Nicholai?   Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:05 pm

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I don't know if he is dead or not. I like to think he escaped in the chopper and that the real ending has Barry as that felt more befitting of the story of how Jill and Carlos got away, but Capcom need to bring him back in a new game. Operation Raccoon City took place in 1998 also, so that does not qualify. I mean, let us know if he survived, Capcom. Argh! Sad

He did. The ending where he steals that one chopper and escapes, leading up to Barry saving Jill and Carlos is the real, canon ending.

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PostSubject: Re: How disturbed was Nicholai?   Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:14 pm

I only know Nicholai from re Orc and even in that game he was a pain in then ass.
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PostSubject: Re: How disturbed was Nicholai?   Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:38 am

Rape is viewed by a lot of writers (particularly female, though not exclusively) as a sort of "special kind of evil" or "fate worse than death", though the real world has certainly proven the latter to be quite true.

As for in the game, no, Nicholai never did or said anything to imply he wanted to rape Jill.
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PostSubject: Re: How disturbed was Nicholai?   Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:00 pm

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As for in the game, no, Nicholai never did or said anything to imply he wanted to rape Jill.


I'm with Ghost, it's never his intention to do that. It's only in the novel I guess. It's kinda have a difference in the game.
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PostSubject: Re: How disturbed was Nicholai?   Fri Jul 20, 2012 10:25 pm

Still, I'm a little disturbed at S.D. Perry right now...
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PostSubject: Re: How disturbed was Nicholai?   Fri Jul 20, 2012 11:56 pm

Valentine Fan wrote:
Still, I'm a little disturbed at S.D. Perry right now...


You're not the only one
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PostSubject: Re: How disturbed was Nicholai?   Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:23 am

Valentine Fan wrote:
Still, I'm a little disturbed at S.D. Perry right now...


Well, you really shouldn't.
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