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Voltius Raccoon Citizen


Posts: 72 Join date: 2009-04-14 Warning Level: 
 | Subject: 10+ Reasons Why RE6 Has Me Worried Mon Jan 23, 2012 8:44 am | |
| Just my 2 cents from watching the trailer.
- From the look of the Trailer, RE6 gives off a rushed, shallow, fan service game without a central point or villain holding it together. It took Capcom years and years of tinkering to make RE4 and RE5 and even then they couldn't capture the heart & soul of their own franchise, putting the game in a night time setting with zombies isn't going to magically bring it back.
- 3 playable characters during the story mode? Reusing Leon and Chris despite the fact that they JUST got their own games. This may be a sign that Capcom is now desperate. They're losing focus and just throwing together a mish-mash of characters, ideas, and settings rather than thinking it through. Leon, Chris, Ada, (Ashley/Sherry) being re-used is another sign of a lack of creativity. Take a hint from the Aliens franchise, when you use the same main character over and over and over, it just kills it. It's over done and over used. I love the old characters, but I want to fall in love with NEW characters. Leon and Chris have already completed their character archs. They're already badasses, we already KNOW who they are and why they are. We need someone new.
- The insanely overdone "Matrix / Superhero" mele attacks are back and worse than ever. Doing a jump kick and knocking out every zombie around you just further destroys the threat behind zombies in the first place. There was a time when you feared the enemy, you feared going anywhere near them.
- The music and cinematics are no where near as high as they were with RE5. RE5 had really good music, amazing graphics, and great cinematic cutscenes. The RE5 trailer showcased all of this. The RE6 trailer is lacking in those exact things.
- Talk about "jumping the shark". Slowly RE has lost touch with reality, They've introduced quite a few WTF moments in the games that just make you think, "who on the writing team thought this was beleivable in the RE universe?!". With RE4 it was Leon being a secret agent looking for the president's daughter. A bit farfetched I think. Now we've got the president of the USA turned into a zombie. Besides, isn't this what we tried so hard to prevent with RE4?
- Michael Bay Syndrome. Just in the trailer alone I saw a motorcycle scene where the rider catches someone falling. Helicopters shooting the shit out of everything and someone riding ON a helicopter. Ok now. THIS is not RE.
- Something is REALLY missing and that is a Villain. We always had Wesker toiling away on his master plan in the background. Now he's gone and man oh man does is it feel empty. They say you don't appreciate something until it's gone. I have to say, killing Wesker was really a mistake.
- The centerpieces holding RE together are gone. Wesker + Tricell + Umbrella + S Corporation. The BIGGEST mistake Capcom made was killing wesker BEFORE they found a replacement for him. Excella could have been the replacement but they made her a stupid mindless bimbo hoe. She could have taken over, killed Wesker by outsmarting him, and been the new villain for the RE series (assuming her character traits where changed to make this all possible and plausable).
- The textures look like shit, maybe it's just a beta or they're not done yet with the game textures but they look awful. When the trailer for RE5 came out we drooled over it's graphics, skin textures, shadows, and explosions,. Crisp, sharp, sunlit, shadows, everything looks amazing on Capcom's MT Framework game engine. RE6 looks... like a PS2 game running in a simulator on a high end PC. The edges of everything looks crisp, but take the time and pause the trailer here and there and look at the actual textures and colors of everything. Pretty bad. Compared to RE5's amazing textures RE6 looks like shit. Hell, RE:Outbreak looked better.
- It throws away everything we've built on. The ganados / las plagas / el gigante / chainsaw enemies where a GOOD step forward, the majini (AI wise) where terrible but still built on the ganados, now we've thrown them away for zombies. The villagers in RE4 where scary as fuck when we met them. What about those of us who actually started to like the newer, smarter AI? The "S Corporation" that Ada talked about, Tricell. Where is everything?! RE4 was a good step away from the OLD formula, RE5 took that same NEW formula and made it terrible, thus the fans complained and wanted to go BACK to the old RE. Now we're throwing away what 4 and 5 built to go BACK?!
- Where is the art style? RE4 had the brown cloudy rainy atmosphere, RE5 had the greenish orange Black Hawk Down cinematic look. RE6.............. Looks like every other game. Nothing special.
- RE6 is not low key enough. RE1 happened somewhere out there in the midwest. RE2 and 3 happened somewhere out there in a small town but it was all covered up and wiped off the map. A bit far but the illusion still worked. Code Veronica happened out there somewhere in Antarctica. RE4 happened somewhere out there in Spain. RE5 in Africa somewhere. RE6 straight up starts with a full blown world wide infection. The problem with this is that it's hard to outdo yourself now. They've written themselves into a corner. They might be able to pull it off this RE game but what about RE7. What hope does it have? Also why the hell would Chris Redfield and a small group of soldiers be sent out. Now that these outbreaks are well known and not hidden, there's no excuse for not sending in the US Army. Small groups of survivors are now redundant.
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Mass Distraction Posts: 7427 Join date: 2009-09-15 Age: 21 Location: Finland Warning Level: 
 | Subject: Re: 10+ Reasons Why RE6 Has Me Worried Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:17 pm | |
| This has got to be the most pessimistic take on a trailer I have ever seen. | Voltius wrote: | | - From the look of the Trailer, RE6 gives off a rushed, shallow, fan service game without a central point or villain holding it together. It took Capcom years and years of tinkering to make RE4 and RE5 and even then they couldn't capture the heart & soul of their own franchise, putting the game in a night time setting with zombies isn't going to magically bring it back. |
RE6 has been in production for two years already according to Capcom. It's already been like 3 years since RE5 and if I remember correctly, the "classic" games were released quite consequently (96, 98, 99, 00, 02).[/quote]
| Quote: | | - The music and cinematics are no where near as high as they were with RE5. RE5 had really good music, amazing graphics, and great cinematic cutscenes. The RE5 trailer showcased all of this. The RE6 trailer is lacking in those exact things. |
Just how can you base that on a 3 minute trailer? Also, which one of those RE5 trailers as there were quite a few before the game was released. This is one trailer.
| Quote: | | Besides, isn't this what we tried so hard to prevent with RE4? |
Adding some drama is never a bad thing.
| Quote: | | The BIGGEST mistake Capcom made was killing wesker BEFORE they found a replacement for him. |
He already HAS a replacement and that is Alex.
| Quote: | | Where is the art style? RE4 had the brown cloudy rainy atmosphere, RE5 had the greenish orange Black Hawk Down cinematic look. RE6.............. Looks like every other game. Nothing special. |
RE6 looks dark and grainy. There, you happy?
| Quote: | | - It throws away everything we've built on. The ganados / las plagas / el gigante / chainsaw enemies where a GOOD step forward, the majini (AI wise) where terrible but still built on the ganados, now we've thrown them away for zombies. The villagers in RE4 where scary as fuck when we met them. What about those of us who actually started to like the newer, smarter AI? The "S Corporation" that Ada talked about, Tricell. Where is everything?! RE4 was a good step away from the OLD formula, RE5 took that same NEW formula and made it terrible, thus the fans complained and wanted to go BACK to the old RE. Now we're throwing away what 4 and 5 built to go BACK?! |
Did you see the trailer? We could have both. Zombies AND intelligent enemies.
| Quote: | | RE6 is not low key enough. RE1 happened somewhere out there in the midwest. RE2 and 3 happened somewhere out there in a small town but it was all covered up and wiped off the map. A bit far but the illusion still worked. Code Veronica happened out there somewhere in Antarctica. RE4 happened somewhere out there in Spain. RE5 in Africa somewhere. RE6 straight up starts with a full blown world wide infection. The problem with this is that it's hard to outdo yourself now. They've written themselves into a corner. They might be able to pull it off this RE game but what about RE7. What hope does it have? Also why the hell would Chris Redfield and a small group of soldiers be sent out. Now that these outbreaks are well known and not hidden, there's no excuse for not sending in the US Army. Small groups of survivors are now redundant. |
Governemnts ALWAYS try to keep things like this under control and make it so that no one is able to report on the place or at least quarantine it. RE7 could still be just as awesome as ever, why would they need to up the scale of the infection? It could just return to small scale, no big deal. Oh, and BSAA is a worldwide group. It is NOT the US Army, just so you know. Besides, it looks like they are only going investigating int that asian city as when they get there it doesn't look quite infested.
For the rest of the stuff, I don't even know what to say. My brain hurts from all this negativity..._________________ ~The Weapon of Mass Distraction~ COMMUNITY:Resident Evil Forums Chat Group: [link]Resident Evil Forums Facebook: [link]Come check my Let's Plays: [link]Gaming forum I'm moderating: [link] |
|  | | Voltius Raccoon Citizen


Posts: 72 Join date: 2009-04-14 Warning Level: 
 | Subject: Re: 10+ Reasons Why RE6 Has Me Worried Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:27 pm | |
| LOL poor guy. I'm sorry I probably ruined your day with my negativity. I've had other friends jokingly tell me these things. Sorry it's just that seeing what happened with RE5, I'm expecting the worst, so when the game finally does come out, I won't be disappointed.
My hopes for RE4 were so high and the game delivered, so when RE5 was coming my hopes were high again and I was so dissapointed I just wanted to cry. So much was missed out on. Oh well... |
|  | | chocotricks Zombie


Posts: 666 Join date: 2011-01-27 Age: 18 Warning Level: 
 | Subject: Re: 10+ Reasons Why RE6 Has Me Worried Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:41 pm | |
| WHY CANT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND GAMES EVOLVE RAWRRRRRRRRRRRRRR |
|  | | Trichos Cerberus


Posts: 224 Join date: 2012-01-08 Age: 23 Location: Germany Warning Level: 
 | Subject: Re: 10+ Reasons Why RE6 Has Me Worried Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:58 pm | |
| | chocotricks wrote: | | WHY CANT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND GAMES EVOLVE RAWRRRRRRRRRRRRRR |
Why can't people who postulate that games evolve understand that games don't do so by themselves, but because certain people decide to take games somewhere new. And these decisions, just like any other, are up to evaluation and criticism.
Rawr. |
|  | | weskersbarber Leech Zombie


Posts: 2256 Join date: 2009-05-25 Age: 20 Location: Ireland Warning Level: 
 | Subject: Re: 10+ Reasons Why RE6 Has Me Worried Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:09 pm | |
| First off its a 3 minute trailer so lets not jump to conclusions, however I do agree with you on a few points such as quite remote locations. It wont be the same if its a world wise thing, but then again I said that about RE4 and RE5 yet now I have grown to love both games even if it has taken a long time.
And I agree about the characters, Hopefully this game will be the last for Chris. As much as I love Chris, he is in just about enough games for me. RE1/REmake, Code Veronica, Revelations,Umbrella Chronicles Lost In Nightmares, RE5 and now RE6. Same for Leon. Two men can only go through so much without dying lol. I would have preffered if they gave the lead characters to other characters from the past instead of new ones. Maybe Claire, Ada, Carlos or dare I say it...............Ark Thompson. |
|  | | Known_Hero Raccoon Citizen


Known_Hero Posts: 59 Join date: 2012-01-12 Warning Level: 
 | Subject: Re: 10+ Reasons Why RE6 Has Me Worried Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:07 pm | |
| Well, this is a great example of how impossible it is to please everyone.
Fans wanted better controls and camera angles: we got re4 and 5
Fans wanted zombies: we get ORC, and 6
Fans wanted survival horror: revelations and 6
What more do you want?
You want to know why capcom reuses the same characters? Because RE fanboys demand it. Look at all the hate a great character like Sheva received; RE fanboys only want to see Chris, Claire, Jill and Leon, it's ridiculous. If these guys stay alive in re6, you can expect to see at least one of them in every damn game until the community gets tired of them.
So, if you want to point the blame, point it at the fans because they asked for this.
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|  | | weskersbarber Leech Zombie


Posts: 2256 Join date: 2009-05-25 Age: 20 Location: Ireland Warning Level: 
 | Subject: Re: 10+ Reasons Why RE6 Has Me Worried Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:14 pm | |
| | Known_Hero wrote: | Well, this is a great example of how impossible it is to please everyone.
Fans wanted better controls and camera angles: we got re4 and 5
Fans wanted zombies: we get ORC, and 6
Fans wanted survival horror: revelations and 6
What more do you want?
You want to know why capcom reuses the same characters? Because RE fanboys demand it. Look at all the hate a great character like Sheva received; RE fanboys only want to see Chris, Claire, Jill and Leon, it's ridiculous. If these guys stay alive in re6, you can expect to see at least one of them in every damn game until the community gets tired of them.
So, if you want to point the blame, point it at the fans because they asked for this.
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Agreed apart from one point. Sheva and 'great' do not belong on the same sentence. |
|  | | chocotricks Zombie


Posts: 666 Join date: 2011-01-27 Age: 18 Warning Level: 
 | Subject: Re: 10+ Reasons Why RE6 Has Me Worried Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:20 pm | |
| I can imagine someone dying in RE6 for some reason I feel Chris will die, Id say Leon but i cant imagine leon dying. Not saying I want them to die but I can see it happening |
|  | | ChickenHeart Cerberus


BrokenWindows Posts: 381 Join date: 2010-08-24 Location: Raccoon City Warning Level: 
 | Subject: Re: 10+ Reasons Why RE6 Has Me Worried Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:34 pm | |
| | chocotricks wrote: | | WHY CANT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND GAMES EVOLVE RAWRRRRRRRRRRRRRR |
Or in this case devolve into your everyday action style game like Call of Duty, Battlefield, Medal of Honor and...I could go on and on. |
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Screw Sony Posts: 9150 Join date: 2008-12-09 Location: Raccoon City Warning Level: 
 | Subject: Re: 10+ Reasons Why RE6 Has Me Worried Mon Jan 23, 2012 10:05 pm | |
| I agree volitus on a lot of points.
Get over Wesker, he was ruined as soon as UC came out.
Lolz about the president thing though...RE4 Part 2: Saddler's Last Laugh.
I do think you were a bit presumptious considering it's a 3 minute trailer and we don't know anything yet...not really.
But yeah, some good points.
As far as the music goes, give it some time. I mean RE5 had epic Pray play during the TGS 08 trailer, but that was far from the first trailer to be released.
RE6 looks much better than it does worse.
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Steam: Leper Messiah Posts: 2412 Join date: 2011-09-19 Age: 16 Location: South of Heaven Warning Level: 
 | Subject: Re: 10+ Reasons Why RE6 Has Me Worried Mon Jan 23, 2012 11:09 pm | |
| I agree with most of Spike's points. |
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Screw Sony Posts: 9150 Join date: 2008-12-09 Location: Raccoon City Warning Level: 
 | Subject: Re: 10+ Reasons Why RE6 Has Me Worried Mon Jan 23, 2012 11:10 pm | |
| | Sargent D wrote: | I agree with most of Spike's points. |
Which do you not?_________________ -Vae Victus-Suffering To The Conquered-"The ultimate lifeform...Tyrant", Albert Wesker, REmakeConsumer Recreation Services  |
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Steam: Leper Messiah Posts: 2412 Join date: 2011-09-19 Age: 16 Location: South of Heaven Warning Level: 
 | Subject: Re: 10+ Reasons Why RE6 Has Me Worried Mon Jan 23, 2012 11:14 pm | |
| | Spike991 wrote: | | Which do you not? |
The art style and the villian one, and probably other but I'm too tired to care as much as I normally would. lol |
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Screw Sony Posts: 9150 Join date: 2008-12-09 Location: Raccoon City Warning Level: 
 | Subject: Re: 10+ Reasons Why RE6 Has Me Worried Mon Jan 23, 2012 11:16 pm | |
| | Sargent D wrote: | | Spike991 wrote: | | Which do you not? |
The art style and the villian one, and probably other but I'm too tired to care as much as I normally would. lol |
What did I say about art?
And by villian you mean the bit about Wesker? Cuz I'm referring to the fact that DC Douglas took over the role in UC._________________ -Vae Victus-Suffering To The Conquered-"The ultimate lifeform...Tyrant", Albert Wesker, REmakeConsumer Recreation Services  |
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