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PartyGirl wrote:

So you are saying that they were not trained specifically for combatting T-Virus zombies and B.OW.s but because of their rigorous training regiment they were able to still be highly effective. Even moreso than many elite Umbrella soldiers who were in fact specifically trained for this, including the creme de la creme of the Umbrella forces, the alpha team.

That's precisely what I'm saying, yes. But I could be just slightly biased because I have a personal hatred of mercenaries, though. Neutral

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Keep in mind, that in the RE-verse, the Umbrella has the best privately trained military units, especially when it comes to zombies and B.O.W.s. Private forces like those tend to be even better than the government's best because they get paid a lot more to compensate for not having as many federal benefits.

Getting paid more doesn't make one a better warrior, intense training and dedication does.

Private armies tend to hoard the best warriors, specifically because of their better pay. They recruit from the top guys from units like the Spec Ops, etc.

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Private armies tend to hoard the best warriors, specifically because of their better pay. They recruit from the top guys from units like the Spec Ops, etc.

Doesn't that mean that these guys could just as well be those top guys?

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Mass Distraction wrote:

PartyGirl wrote:

Private armies tend to hoard the best warriors, specifically because of their better pay. They recruit from the top guys from units like the Spec Ops, etc.

Doesn't that mean that these guys could just as well be those top guys?

Essentially yes. Laughing

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PartyGirl wrote:

Private armies tend to hoard the best warriors, specifically because of their better pay. They recruit from the top guys from units like the Spec Ops, etc.

Doesn't that mean that these guys could just as well be those top guys?

Yup. They are essentially equivalent if you compare the top US spec troops and the USS. However, the USS do have the edge in having specialized experience in fighting zombies and B.O.W.s', and navigating through zombie apocalyptic urban areas since Umbrella manufactures them and wants to have troops, the best troops, prepared to protect them against their own creations. But in a straight up squad vs squad scenario with no involvement of zombies I'd say its a 50/50 and both sides are evenly matched. But you notice the USS were able to take advantage of the zombies in the environment by throwing pheromones at the Spec ops troops so I'd say in a zombified urban warzone, I'd give the edge to the elite Umbrella troops who are better equipped at that point in the timeline to take advantage of their zombie surroundings.

Although hey, in the canon storyline the US is still going strong, the BSAA are the new hardcore zombie/uroboros ass kickers, and Umbrella is defunct! But you notice they never had an actual game to show how Umbrella was beaten, we're supposed to just accept the premise that a privately trained army of soldiers on the level of HUNK, backed by the industry leading B.O.W.s lost. There's a reason there's no game for it since if they have a regular third person shooter with Chris/Jill, there's no way to have made that game beatable while maintaining some semblance of realism.

We've only seen the Spec-Ops team killing one licker and a few zombies. Nothing major. It's not like they took down a tyrant and a bunch of hunters at the same time. To be fair, the USS wasn't trained to fight off zombies either as the zombies were an unexpected side product and not meant to exist anyway.

Umbrella was beaten by politics, not by war. Umbrella's fall has been explained rather well. After Umbrella went bankrupt and the heads got thrown to jail etc. the USS most likely just disbanded and the mercs working there went their own ways. There was no need for them to start a fight against anyone as the corporation they worked for wasn't there to pay for them anymore.

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Mass Distraction wrote:

We've only seen the Spec-Ops team killing one licker and a few zombies. Nothing major. It's not like they took down a tyrant and a bunch of hunters at the same time. To be fair, the USS wasn't trained to fight off zombies either as the zombies were an unexpected side product and not meant to exist anyway.

But traveling through and navigating raccoon city at the height of its infection you know how difficult that is. All of RPD, USS, and STARS(besides Jill, Ada, HUNK, and Leon) failed to even stay alive, much less carry out a mission. Clearly the Spec ops are far more advanced than those guys are, but even so without special training there's no way they could have made it look so easy IMO.

USS were likely trained between RE1 and RE2(very short period of time, but they're smart they learn quick), since although they managed to fool the government Umbrella knew themselves what happened at the Spencer mansion and their lab. Hence the USS were far more skilled at dealing with the zombies than the RPD or STARS and even came equipped with pheromones to draw them away and also syringes to collect samples(indicating they knew what they were getting into and what they'd be up against). They even had Mr. X at their disposal and probably lesser B.O.W.s for sparring buddies for Hunk and his friends.

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Umbrella was beaten by politics, not by war. Umbrella's fall has been explained rather well. After Umbrella went bankrupt and the heads got thrown to jail etc. the USS most likely just disbanded and the mercs working there went their own ways. There was no need for them to start a fight against anyone as the corporation they worked for wasn't there to pay for them anymore.

Yeah, for readers it makes sense. But for those who just popped in their RE4 or RE5 disc and looked and saw that Umbrella went down they'd probably go WTF, how?!? I wonder what happened to the dominant fighting army of Umbrella? I assume Wesker took in the BOWs as pets and lab rats, but the USS? Did they just get day jobs? Is HUNK the new head janitor at Walmart with Vector working underneath him as the assistant janitor? Razz

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We've only seen the Spec-Ops team killing one licker and a few zombies. Nothing major. It's not like they took down a tyrant and a bunch of hunters at the same time. To be fair, the USS wasn't trained to fight off zombies either as the zombies were an unexpected side product and not meant to exist anyway.

But traveling through and navigating raccoon city at the height of its infection you know how difficult that is. All of RPD, USS, and STARS(besides Jill, Ada, HUNK, and Leon) failed to even stay alive, much less carry out a mission. Clearly the Spec ops are far more advanced than those guys are, but even so without special training there's no way they could have made it look so easy IMO.

There were also a bunch of civilians (Outbreak), a couple more RPD officers (Outbreak, Confidential Report), Billy, Sherry and a couple of UBCS members who survived Raccoon. Moreso, Ark and a couple of kids survived Sheena Island and both Bruce and Fong-Ling survived Spencer Rain.

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Mass Distraction wrote:

Umbrella was beaten by politics, not by war. Umbrella's fall has been explained rather well. After Umbrella went bankrupt and the heads got thrown to jail etc. the USS most likely just disbanded and the mercs working there went their own ways. There was no need for them to start a fight against anyone as the corporation they worked for wasn't there to pay for them anymore.

Yeah, for readers it makes sense. But for those who just popped in their RE4 or RE5 disc and looked and saw that Umbrella went down they'd probably go WTF, how?!? I wonder what happened to the dominant fighting army of Umbrella? I assume Wesker took in the BOWs as pets and lab rats, but the USS? Did they just get day jobs? Is HUNK the new head janitor at Walmart with Vector working underneath him as the assistant janitor? Razz

That's the reason everyone should start from the beginning. There's no need to go through everything in the opening of each sequel. If one is not observative enough to understand what happened then that's their problem. If you just skip every file and every cutscene of course nothing seems to make sense. This series is known for files being one of its biggest storytelling mechanics.

What mercenaries do when their employment on one company ends? They find more jobs as mercenaries. There will always be some. The BOWs (what was left of them after Raccoon's destruction) were propably disposed of.

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Yeah I was mainly talking combatants and i realize I missed a few but the point's the same. Their main purpose was all survival and most of them failed to do that. USS was there to contain and the alpha team was there to secure the G-Virus and most of them failed to survive. The Spec ops team looked like they were enjoying a walk in the park until they unfortunately ran into a USS team.

And I was mainly talking about the pure gamers and not the online readers. Most people who play RE just play the games and don't read up on the story online. And without reading online i think it would be hard to understand the Umbrella collapse.

They really need to do some canon spinoffs to let us know what's going on with the umbrella soldiers who are my favorite characters in the series outside of Party Girl Razz

. I wonder if any of them decided to join the BSAA, if anything their expertise would come in handy.

Again the alpha team would've most likely gotten away with it if the mutated Birkin had not attacked them. Besides, most of HUNK's previous teams have all been decimated too. That's what earned him the nickname "Mr. Death".

I have learned all this from the games. I only check character details and stuff like that online. The files are in the games.

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Mass Distraction wrote:

Again the alpha team would've most likely gotten away with it if the mutated Birkin had not attacked them.

And that was before the virus escaped. For all we know, Raccoon City was the USS' trial by fire.

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I remember lickers in raccoon city police department they where not easy to take down certainly never pulled my knife out and wrapped its tongue round my self to close in for a kill stab in the heart instant death.

You can quick kill the lickers in RE5 with a stun move and a stab to the heart.

She was able to untangle herself from the licker's tongue because she cut it off right before she went for the kill.

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Ah i never saw that may have to watch the trailer again bounce

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