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PostSubject: Degeneration a pointless effort?   Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:56 am

Not long ago I bought RE Degeneration from Big W. After watching it I found it average (being better than the crappy film adaptations which im surprised are still being made) but it just felt irrelevant to the rest of the series. It seems like a test for something different like Capcom are trying to mix the series up. Its good to see a Leon and Claire reunion but I would have preffered that to have happened in a videogame. Leon looks different and has a differnt voice actor, Claire's hair is kind of a pink/red fusion, The WillPharma company felt under developed, the random outbreak of the T-Virus and G-Virus was nothing short of a unestablished event, and the ending seemed rushed. I don't hate Degeneration, I was just knitpicking. I hope that the next CG Resident Evil film will be an improvement (I would also like to see some characters that have been hiding behind the curtains for way too long). What do you guys think?
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PostSubject: Re: Degeneration a pointless effort?   Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:53 am

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Leon looks different and has a differnt voice actor

Actually it's the same from RE4. Unless you're talking about RE2.
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PostSubject: Re: Degeneration a pointless effort?   Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:33 pm

I don't think Degeneration was a wasted effort. It was better to have Leon in a movie than yet in another game. It was also a good look on what Claire has been up to since Code: Veronica. All in all, it was a great movie and a worthy addition to the series. It's nice to have something different every once in a while.

"It seems like a test for something different like Capcom are trying to mix the series up." You haven't seen 4D-Executer, I presume?

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PostSubject: Re: Degeneration a pointless effort?   Mon Jul 18, 2011 6:21 pm

Paul Mercier has been voicing Leon in everything since RE4, so you are wrong about the voice actor part. Also, Degeneration was the first "real" CG full feature attempt by Capcom so I'm sure the next will improve a lot. Degeneration even introduced us to Tricell, so I think it was a worthwhile film and it was much better than the live action movies.

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PostSubject: Re: Degeneration a pointless effort?   Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:46 pm

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Paul Mercier has been voicing Leon in everything since RE4, so you are wrong about the voice actor part. Also, Degeneration was the first "real" CG full feature attempt by Capcom so I'm sure the next will improve a lot. Degeneration even introduced us to Tricell, so I think it was a worthwhile film and it was much better than the live action movies.


Same voice, but Leon looks like he has a stick permanently rammed up where the sun doesn't shine throughout the whole thing. That is a problem, given how he is in 4 and DC. Causes confusion about if it's the same guy or not.

Well... Degeneration annoyed me in parts. Angela's dumber than a sack of bricks, while Claire gets sidelined so easily. Seriously, RE2 had Leon taking a bullet to the chest and he still keeps going. But Claire has a shard of glass in her leg putting her out of the action. While it's more realistic, it doesn't fit with the series pattern of injuries/conditions that should've caused problems, but don't. (Chris, Wesker, and Sheva fighting in an active volcano without dying, Chris not breaking his hand by punching a boulder, Leon getting shot in the chest but still fighting zombies, Ada either falling down a shaft or smashed into a power generator, yet surviving, etc.)

But I really dislike Angela. Doesn't shoot G-Virus-ed Curtis, shooting a zombie in the leg for no reason... *Imagines what would've happened if Angela was in Raccoon City during the outbreak* She'd be dead in ten minutes. Max. (And I'm being generous.)
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PostSubject: Re: Degeneration a pointless effort?   Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:40 am

Well it seems i was wrong about some details like Leon having a different voice actor (i jumped to that conclusion because he sounded different) I would have prefered to see a Leon and Claire reunion in a Videogame.
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PostSubject: Re: Degeneration a pointless effort?   Tue Jul 19, 2011 2:00 am

NiteKrawler wrote:
Paul Mercier has been voicing Leon in everything since RE4, so you are wrong about the voice actor part. Also, Degeneration was the first "real" CG full feature attempt by Capcom so I'm sure the next will improve a lot. Degeneration even introduced us to Tricell, so I think it was a worthwhile film and it was much better than the live action movies.

Wait, I know it did introduce Tricell, but in what scene? Was it the last scene? All I can remember was WilPharma.
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PostSubject: Re: Degeneration a pointless effort?   Tue Jul 19, 2011 2:11 am

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Paul Mercier has been voicing Leon in everything since RE4, so you are wrong about the voice actor part. Also, Degeneration was the first "real" CG full feature attempt by Capcom so I'm sure the next will improve a lot. Degeneration even introduced us to Tricell, so I think it was a worthwhile film and it was much better than the live action movies.

Wait, I know it did introduce Tricell, but in what scene? Was it the last scene? All I can remember was WilPharma.

Very last scene. The WilPharma facility gets cleaned up by people in hazmat suits with the Tricell logo on them.
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PostSubject: Re: Degeneration a pointless effort?   Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:37 am

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Paul Mercier has been voicing Leon in everything since RE4, so you are wrong about the voice actor part. Also, Degeneration was the first "real" CG full feature attempt by Capcom so I'm sure the next will improve a lot. Degeneration even introduced us to Tricell, so I think it was a worthwhile film and it was much better than the live action movies.

Wait, I know it did introduce Tricell, but in what scene? Was it the last scene? All I can remember was WilPharma.

Very last scene. The WilPharma facility gets cleaned up by people in hazmat suits with the Tricell logo on them.

Then they got the G-virus sample piece leading to the events of RE5 (the lickers and all).

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PostSubject: Re: Degeneration a pointless effort?   Tue Jul 19, 2011 4:20 pm

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Paul Mercier has been voicing Leon in everything since RE4, so you are wrong about the voice actor part. Also, Degeneration was the first "real" CG full feature attempt by Capcom so I'm sure the next will improve a lot. Degeneration even introduced us to Tricell, so I think it was a worthwhile film and it was much better than the live action movies.

Wait, I know it did introduce Tricell, but in what scene? Was it the last scene? All I can remember was WilPharma.

Very last scene. The WilPharma facility gets cleaned up by people in hazmat suits with the Tricell logo on them.

Then they got the G-virus sample piece leading to the events of RE5 (the lickers and all).

Ah. Okay. That helps, thank you. Smile

I really want to watch that movie again. I have great memories of watching it the first time.
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PostSubject: Re: Degeneration a pointless effort?   Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:52 am

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Then they got the G-virus sample piece leading to the events of RE5 (the lickers and all).

...Isn't there an RE5 file (after they shoot at Excella and she drops Wesker's special serum syringes) that says they have samples of both the G-Virus and t-Veronica virus? Weren't they comparing both with Uroboros, because they wanted to limit or eliminate the side effects of Uroboros? Am I the only one here that would love to see the experiments involved with the G-Virus and t-Veronica virus?

Wait, if they needed to steal samples of the G-Virus from Curtis Miller's corpse at the WilPharma facility, and if Wesker's a major person in Tricell, he already had a sample of the G-Virus that Ada grabbed for him. Why did they go to the trouble of taking another sample of the exact same thing? Is he just hording it or something?
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PostSubject: Re: Degeneration a pointless effort?   Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:19 pm

He probably just looked a bit different because the technology they used for making the movie and games are different. When did Ada grab the G-Virus for Wesker? Do you mean in RE4, when she got the Plaga sample for him? Which she faked anyway. Also, Wesker was not a member of Tricell.

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PostSubject: Re: Degeneration a pointless effort?   Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:51 am

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He probably just looked a bit different because the technology they used for making the movie and games are different. When did Ada grab the G-Virus for Wesker? Do you mean in RE4, when she got the Plaga sample for him? Which she faked anyway. Also, Wesker was not a member of Tricell.

It's in Umbrella Chronicles. She retrieved a sample for their organization... Wait, that means he may not have a personal sample. Though it is an interesting image of Wesker fawning over the G-Virus like Birkin.

I see. I missed that in 5. (So he was only connected due to Excella...)

Tricell's going to crumble like Umbrella at this rate, anyway. The facility was too large to pass off a few rouges. "Irving, Excella, and Excella's one friend, Wesker, all went crazy and started doing BOW research" is not going to work.

...Or it may still exist due to the Global Pharmaceutical Consortium funding the BSAA. How's that going to work, then? If Tricell is a major source of income and they don't collapse, is the BSAA going to accept the money, thus making them hypocrites sabotaging their own work for money, or will they have major problems, due to lack of funding? Maybe that's what 6 will be about?
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PostSubject: Re: Degeneration a pointless effort?   Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:50 pm

Tricell will probably be investigated and booted from the Consortium. And we never saw a Tricell facility. It was an old Umbrella facility. In fact, there is no proof that Tricell as a whole was involved in any wrong doing.

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PostSubject: Re: Degeneration a pointless effort?   Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:50 pm

I feel Leon`s character or act is different in degeneration from RE4 he became like a wise man
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