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PostSubject: Re: What's Your Stance On Sheva Alomar?   Sat Sep 24, 2011 11:46 pm

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I still fail to see how Sheva has as much of a right to kill Wesker than the two people who got F'd over the most by him in the series. I doubt Wesker was directly involved with her people dying.

Another thing I hate about Sheva is that even after crow lady's mask came off and showed that it was Jill, Sheva STILL shot at her!

And I hate Steve because he acts like a horny 10 year-old with daddy issues. He does nothing but stare at Claire's ass and get himself into stupid situations. Seriously dude, quit being an idiot and just put the damn lugers back!


Agreed. I mean, I've only seen bits and pieces of CV/X/HD. But I get the feeling I'm going to 'accidentally' get killed numerous times when having to play as him. When I'm not playing as him, I pray to find his mutilated corpse.

Speaking of CVX, only two days to go!!! Very Happy

Actually Steve is a bad arse and you would have to suck at the game to die as him.
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PostSubject: Re: What's Your Stance On Sheva Alomar?   Sun Sep 25, 2011 12:04 am

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I still fail to see how Sheva has as much of a right to kill Wesker than the two people who got F'd over the most by him in the series. I doubt Wesker was directly involved with her people dying.

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PostSubject: Re: What's Your Stance On Sheva Alomar?   Sun Sep 25, 2011 7:02 am

Chris and Jill couldn't kill Wesker. Think about it, The 2 white people on the chopper shooting rocket launchers at Wesker killing him while the 2 black people did not. Thats just racist guys, common whats the matter with you. 1 white and 1 black person had to kill Wesker together to be fair. lol I'm joking by the way but I wouldn't be surprised if Capcom had originally made the scene have both Chris and Jill kill Wesker since they were both almost got killed in the mansion, Chris got his ass kicked by Wesker in CVX and also had to watch Claire get hers kicked. Jill had to suffer with being controlled by Wesker doing his bidding, add to the fact RE6 is supposed to be a reboot so what better way to end the era of the orignal story taking place 10 years after the mansion incident then to have the 2 main characters who were there in the begining kill the man who screwed them over and made their lives hell. Once that stuff about racism came out I get the feeling that Capcom changed it to protect themselves. I know it sounds stupid but those people calling the game racist probably would have looked for stuff like that. I remember one of the people who called the game racist was a journalist and flat out said "this game is being marketed towards children"
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PostSubject: Re: What's Your Stance On Sheva Alomar?   Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:31 am

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The Knife wrote:
Cyberote wrote:
I still fail to see how Sheva has as much of a right to kill Wesker than the two people who got F'd over the most by him in the series. I doubt Wesker was directly involved with her people dying.

Another thing I hate about Sheva is that even after crow lady's mask came off and showed that it was Jill, Sheva STILL shot at her!

And I hate Steve because he acts like a horny 10 year-old with daddy issues. He does nothing but stare at Claire's ass and get himself into stupid situations. Seriously dude, quit being an idiot and just put the damn lugers back!


Agreed. I mean, I've only seen bits and pieces of CV/X/HD. But I get the feeling I'm going to 'accidentally' get killed numerous times when having to play as him. When I'm not playing as him, I pray to find his mutilated corpse.

Speaking of CVX, only two days to go!!! Very Happy

Actually Steve is a bad arse and you would have to suck at the game to die as him.


'Accidentally' as in; 'deliberately'. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: What's Your Stance On Sheva Alomar?   Sun Sep 25, 2011 1:35 pm

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Chris and Jill couldn't kill Wesker. Think about it, The 2 white people on the chopper shooting rocket launchers at Wesker killing him while the 2 black people did not. Thats just racist guys, common whats the matter with you. 1 white and 1 black person had to kill Wesker together to be fair. lol I'm joking by the way but I wouldn't be surprised if Capcom had originally made the scene have both Chris and Jill kill Wesker since they were both almost got killed in the mansion, Chris got his ass kicked by Wesker in CVX and also had to watch Claire get hers kicked. Jill had to suffer with being controlled by Wesker doing his bidding, add to the fact RE6 is supposed to be a reboot so what better way to end the era of the orignal story taking place 10 years after the mansion incident then to have the 2 main characters who were there in the begining kill the man who screwed them over and made their lives hell. Once that stuff about racism came out I get the feeling that Capcom changed it to protect themselves. I know it sounds stupid but those people calling the game racist probably would have looked for stuff like that. I remember one of the people who called the game racist was a journalist and flat out said "this game is being marketed towards children"
.it was a journalist named n'gai croal, whom we should all hate forever.

and should be put out of his misery, just like old yeller.

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PostSubject: What Wesker has done to people:   Sun Sep 25, 2011 2:35 pm

Chris:
Beat the ever lovin' shit out of him numerous times.
Beat the ever lovin' shit out of his (hot) sister.
Killed most of his team members.
Almost killed him.
Kidnapped and brainwashed his partner.

Jill:
Got taken captive in the mansion.
Beat the ever lovin' shit out of her.
Killed most of her team members.
Almost killed her.
Forced her to beat up and shoot Chris.

Sheva:
(Indirectly) Killed her parents.

I THINK WE NOW KNOW WHO DESERVED TO KILL WESKER. Neutral
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PostSubject: Re: What's Your Stance On Sheva Alomar?   Sun Sep 25, 2011 7:02 pm

The Knife wrote:
Chris:
Beat the ever lovin' shit out of him numerous times.
Beat the ever lovin' shit out of his (hot) sister.
Killed most of his team members.
Almost killed him.
Kidnapped and brainwashed his partner.

Jill:
Got taken captive in the mansion.
Beat the ever lovin' shit out of her.
Killed most of her team members.
Almost killed her.
Forced her to beat up and shoot Chris.

Sheva:
(Indirectly) Killed her parents.

I THINK WE NOW KNOW WHO DESERVED TO KILL WESKER. Neutral


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PostSubject: Re: What's Your Stance On Sheva Alomar?   Sun Sep 25, 2011 7:32 pm

It doesn't matter who "deserved" to or not, the job was to kill Wesker and now he's dead. Mission accomplished. That's all that matters.
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PostSubject: Re: What's Your Stance On Sheva Alomar?   Sun Sep 25, 2011 7:48 pm

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It doesn't matter who "deserved" to or not, the job was to kill Wesker and now he's dead. Mission accomplished. That's all that matters.
not so easy. i mean yes, he is unmistakably dead, but one can still carry some ill feelings for how it happened. especially when a genius tries to argue that sheva had the same right as chris or jill.

not to mention all the annoying people that are completely optimistic about wesker returning, or worst of all, the ones who say that the series cant go on anymore, because he's gone.

this topic is still alive and well.

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PostSubject: Re: What's Your Stance On Sheva Alomar?   Sun Sep 25, 2011 7:58 pm

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It doesn't matter who "deserved" to or not, the job was to kill Wesker and now he's dead. Mission accomplished. That's all that matters.
not so easy. i mean yes, he is unmistakably dead, but one can still carry some ill feelings for how it happened. especially when a genius tries to argue that sheva had the same right as chris or jill.

not to mention all the annoying people that are completely optimistic about wesker returning, or worst of all, the ones who say that the series cant go on anymore, because he's gone.

this topic is still alive and well.

None of that alters the fact. I can't feasibly see Jill holding any grudge over not getting to pull the trigger. She's a soldier. All that matters to her is the job getting done. And the job did get done. The end.
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PostSubject: Re: What's Your Stance On Sheva Alomar?   Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:07 pm

Reading this thread now, I would love to see the reaction if Wesker was killed off by someone like, say Ashely. Or how about some brand new character that had no idea who Wesker was up till that point.

Fan reactions are always hilarious. Just look at Star Wars. George Lucas makes a bunch of harmless changes to the original trilogy, and the fans go nuts with anger. I can understand the most recent change being complained about though.
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PostSubject: Re: What's Your Stance On Sheva Alomar?   Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:37 pm

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Reading this thread now, I would love to see the reaction if Wesker was killed off by someone like, say Ashely. Or how about some brand new character that had no idea who Wesker was up till that point.Fan reactions are always hilarious. Just look at Star Wars. George Lucas makes a bunch of harmless changes to the original trilogy, and the fans go nuts with anger. I can understand the most recent change being complained about though.


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PostSubject: Re: What's Your Stance On Sheva Alomar?   Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:53 pm

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toddx77 wrote:
Chris and Jill couldn't kill Wesker. Think about it, The 2 white people on the chopper shooting rocket launchers at Wesker killing him while the 2 black people did not. Thats just racist guys, common whats the matter with you. 1 white and 1 black person had to kill Wesker together to be fair. lol I'm joking by the way but I wouldn't be surprised if Capcom had originally made the scene have both Chris and Jill kill Wesker since they were both almost got killed in the mansion, Chris got his ass kicked by Wesker in CVX and also had to watch Claire get hers kicked. Jill had to suffer with being controlled by Wesker doing his bidding, add to the fact RE6 is supposed to be a reboot so what better way to end the era of the orignal story taking place 10 years after the mansion incident then to have the 2 main characters who were there in the begining kill the man who screwed them over and made their lives hell. Once that stuff about racism came out I get the feeling that Capcom changed it to protect themselves. I know it sounds stupid but those people calling the game racist probably would have looked for stuff like that. I remember one of the people who called the game racist was a journalist and flat out said "this game is being marketed towards children"
.it was a journalist named n'gai croal, whom we should all hate forever.

and should be put out of his misery, just like old yeller.


Agreed, someone like that deserves all the hate and bad luck they recieve for having their head so far up their ass. By this guys logic, if there ever was a zombie outbreak then white people would have to get eaten because it would be racist for them to shoot any black zombies lol. Its also funny how people like him and others who called the game racist never brought up re4 with killing spanish people or games like san andreas where you play as a black guy who is in a gang, sells drugs, and the n word is used all the time. The most ironic thing is that Dan Whitehead from Eurogamer basically said Sheva wasn't dark enough. Kind of wish Capcom just ignored this like Valve did with the adoption controversy and Portal 2, maybe then Jill might have killed Wesker.
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PostSubject: Re: What's Your Stance On Sheva Alomar?   Mon Sep 26, 2011 5:09 am

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It doesn't matter who "deserved" to or not, the job was to kill Wesker and now he's dead. Mission accomplished. That's all that matters.
not so easy. i mean yes, he is unmistakably dead, but one can still carry some ill feelings for how it happened. especially when a genius tries to argue that sheva had the same right as chris or jill.

not to mention all the annoying people that are completely optimistic about wesker returning, or worst of all, the ones who say that the series cant go on anymore, because he's gone.

this topic is still alive and well.

None of that alters the fact. I can't feasibly see Jill holding any grudge over not getting to pull the trigger. She's a soldier. All that matters to her is the job getting done. And the job did get done. The end.


Not Jill, but how about Spike? I bet I see him holding a grudge.

Once all is said and done, it's still annoying. Not something I think about every moment of everyday, but in situations like this one, where it is brought up again, and again, put's the topic right in the front of my mind, and get's me cooking on the hate for Sheva.

I've mentioned numerous times the pros to her character, which are few, but the negative significantly outweights the positive.

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PostSubject: Re: What's Your Stance On Sheva Alomar?   Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:40 am

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Fan reactions are always hilarious.

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