Yeah his appearance in Degeneration was kind of what killed him to me. Just plain overdone. I'd rather have had Wesker.

I understand where you're coming from but personally, I didn't receive him as cool. It looked like they tried too hard to make him hip in some over the top teeny bopper way. I didn't mind him so much in RE2 as kind of the naive rookie cop, but the dark mysterious personality they gave him later on just didn't suit him in my opinion. I understand that what he went through would make him more cynical, but they just took it too far with his been there done that attitude.

As far as Degeneration goes..... God, the vocal sync was terrible to me. Also, I don't like that they made Claire out to be some environmentalist hippie, sure, she kicked some ass but the whole traded in her Hi Power for a picket sign rubbed me the wrong way.

Leon was great in RE2, and I think he developed perfectly by RE4. Degeneration though, he was definately personalityless.

Claire...well I can honestly say that I didn't expect a pretty, smart, tomboy, biker, etc, such as herself to be in the role she was in Degeneration, part of TerraSave. She looked and sounded great, but needless to say, a bit odd seeing her as some kind of environmnetalists.

Definately a mature turn for her character though, and I liked when Leon mentioned how she did something that he and her brother could not, fighting BOWs in a non-violent kind of way.

I don't wanna come of as knocking EVERYTHING that Leon was in.... I loved Degeneration for the most part, I was very happy to see the return of zombies and the G forms. And I don't really care what they do RE wise, they could have Leon on an easter egg hunt and slap the RE label on it and I would buy it.

Usually, rough biker listening to Queen all day is just a hop, skip, and a jump from hippy environmentalist.

I wouldnt say that the series was ruined because of RE4...the game is very enjoyable throughout...even though the game pace is a bit faster then the originals I still found myself coming back for more...it is one of the best games that I have played

This is turning into the Sonic fanbase, huh?

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BOBLATHON wrote: No ass handings man, Spike is just a God amongst Mortals when it comes to RE knowledge. Personally, I, for the most part share your views on the franchise. All the games have their shining moments but in my opinion it took a turn for the worse with RE4. And as nekro said, RE4 would have been a great game by any other name. RE5 is redeemed only by it's cast and the Lost in Nightmares DLC, Again in MY opinion. The only way I think it had a bad turn with RE4, is the success of it with 3rd Person Action shooters looking for their fix, being the reason RE5 had so many action elements, and entire parts and chapters in the game in which it felt like it was made for an action game, but because of the RE controls, we weren't able to handle it like they expected, which of course resulted in fail, and annoying moments in gameplay... Of course RE5's story is more relevant than RE4, but in terms of the gameplay, and all the other things that usually get complaints, RE4 isn't in the same boat, and I certainly hate when people label RE4 & RE5 in the same category, don't put RE4 in a box.

Objection!

I don't necessarily think that RE4 or RE5 ruined Resident Evil, it changed the pace and the genre from survival horror to pure action, but the storyline (Moreso in 5) was still there. I do think that Resident Evil 4 kind of strayed a little too far from it's roots though.

Alright, I admit that "pure action" was a little extravagent, but the emphasis was definately off survival horror by RE4.

Totally agree about the co-op comment, it just didn't seem as tense with a partner.