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PostSubject: Re: Untapped Potential - T-Virus Infected Las Plagas   Tue Mar 02, 2010 6:51 pm

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I don't know about the monkeys...as for the sharks...

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lol. off topic but how do you get on of those portable psn IDs. i have tried so many times to get one but when i go to log in and wont let me
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PostSubject: Re: Untapped Potential - T-Virus Infected Las Plagas   Tue Mar 02, 2010 6:58 pm

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I don't know about the monkeys...as for the sharks...

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lol. off topic but how do you get on of those portable psn IDs. i have tried so many times to get one but when i go to log in and wont let me


I had to get mine on the UK Playstation site. I don't think the US site has them still.

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PostSubject: Re: Untapped Potential - T-Virus Infected Las Plagas   Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:04 pm

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I don't know about the monkeys...as for the sharks...

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lol. off topic but how do you get on of those portable psn IDs. i have tried so many times to get one but when i go to log in and wont let me


I had to get mine on the UK Playstation site. I don't think the US site has them still.


yeah im using the uk site as well. i dont know why but it just wont let me log in
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PostSubject: Re: Untapped Potential - T-Virus Infected Las Plagas   Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:07 pm

That's weird. I just updated mine.

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PostSubject: Re: Untapped Potential - T-Virus Infected Las Plagas   Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:09 pm

Umbrella was kinda notorious for creating a bunch of uncontrollable monsters, weren't they? Besides the different Tyrant types, they didn't really create any good B.O.W.s, did they? Except maybe Nemesis, but wasn't he basically a Tyrant, too? Same basic idea, anyways.

It wasn't until Tricell came along that the real B.O.W.s surfaced, like the Popokarimu (the giant bat spider thing). I guess Saddler had them as well, but weren't they just plaga infected creatures? I've wondered about that, actually. How one human with a plaga became a ganado, and another became El Gigante. And what about Salazar, and his two bodyguards? Or Del Lago?

How did all of those come about, really?
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PostSubject: Re: Untapped Potential - T-Virus Infected Las Plagas   Wed Mar 03, 2010 2:32 am

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Umbrella was kinda notorious for creating a bunch of uncontrollable monsters, weren't they? Besides the different Tyrant types, they didn't really create any good B.O.W.s, did they? Except maybe Nemesis, but wasn't he basically a Tyrant, too? Same basic idea, anyways.

It wasn't until Tricell came along that the real B.O.W.s surfaced, like the Popokarimu (the giant bat spider thing). I guess Saddler had them as well, but weren't they just plaga infected creatures? I've wondered about that, actually. How one human with a plaga became a ganado, and another became El Gigante. And what about Salazar, and his two bodyguards? Or Del Lago?

How did all of those come about, really?


I think the Plagas were modified for each different creature.

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PostSubject: Re: Untapped Potential - T-Virus Infected Las Plagas   Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:18 am

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I think the Plagas were modified for each different creature.


Perhaps. But how would Saddler have the equipment to really modify at least three different types of Las Plagas?

The Del Lago, El Gigante, Plus Salazar and his "hands"?, along with Mendez and Saddler himself?

Seems like a lot of effort just to surround himself with them, especially El Gigante. He was just a psychotic beast anyways. Did they keep him around just for ex-cops sent to find the president's daughter?
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PostSubject: Re: Untapped Potential - T-Virus Infected Las Plagas   Wed Mar 03, 2010 4:40 am

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I think the Plagas were modified for each different creature.


Perhaps. But how would Saddler have the equipment to really modify at least three different types of Las Plagas?

The Del Lago, El Gigante, Plus Salazar and his "hands"?, along with Mendez and Saddler himself?

Seems like a lot of effort just to surround himself with them, especially El Gigante. He was just a psychotic beast anyways. Did they keep him around just for ex-cops sent to find the president's daughter?


Saddler didn't. Luis did. As for Saddler, Mendez, and Salazar, different forms of natural Plagas were used. It is kind of confusing because they are called different things. Some say that Saddler had the Control Plaga, or Queen. Salazar and Mendez had what many call the Master Plaga. The terminology is weird and I may have gotten it wrong (I'm going from memory), because it seems that the Master should be the highest form. In any case, It went Saddler's Plaga>Mendez and Salazar's Plagas>regular Plagas.

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PostSubject: Re: Untapped Potential - T-Virus Infected Las Plagas   Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:52 pm

Well sorry to ruin the new subject in this post but im but to argue once more. Even when zombies can't be controlled, they can be used as tools of destruction. They are hosts to the t-virus, much like a gun to the bullet. You need a bullet to make the gun useful. Another way to address them as weapons, They do indeed kill things. I feel like both of you address the idea as some maniacs walking around killing people and saying they are not dangerous.
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PostSubject: Re: Untapped Potential - T-Virus Infected Las Plagas   Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:01 pm

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Well sorry to ruin the new subject in this post but im but to argue once more. Even when zombies can't be controlled, they can be used as tools of destruction. They are hosts to the t-virus, much like a gun to the bullet. You need a bullet to make the gun useful. Another way to address them as weapons, They do indeed kill things. I feel like both of you address the idea as some maniacs walking around killing people and saying they are not dangerous.


Being dangerous and being a weapon are two different things. A serial killer is dangerous. A marine is a weapon. In order for the T-Virus zombies to be considered weapons, they would have to be able to get a job done, and then no longer be a threat to the user. The reality (a bit of an ironic use of the word) is that these zombies will stop at nothing and cannot be controlled.

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PostSubject: Re: Untapped Potential - T-Virus Infected Las Plagas   Thu Mar 04, 2010 1:17 am

To go back to my conversation with Nite, How did Saddler, Salazar, and Mendez get different types OF the plaga? Not to mention the modified versions like El Gigante and Del Lago, or why the Chainsaw Ganados were so much tougher.
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PostSubject: Re: Untapped Potential - T-Virus Infected Las Plagas   Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:52 am

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To go back to my conversation with Nite, How did Saddler, Salazar, and Mendez get different types OF the plaga? Not to mention the modified versions like El Gigante and Del Lago, or why the Chainsaw Ganados were so much tougher.


Master, and Control/Queen Plagas all exist naturally within the colonies. Therefore, they just had to find them. Kind of like catching Pokemon! Razz It is like queen ants, soldier ants, and worker ants. El Gigante is I assume made with a modified version or maybe it just affects certain individuals like that naturally. Del Lago is the only fishlike Plaga creature so maybe that transformation was natural for that specie of animal. And the sacks over the chainsaw guys obviously gave them more protection. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Untapped Potential - T-Virus Infected Las Plagas   Thu Mar 04, 2010 2:10 pm

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Master, and Control/Queen Plagas all exist naturally within the colonies. Therefore, they just had to find them. Kind of like catching Pokemon! Razz It is like queen ants, soldier ants, and worker ants. El Gigante is I assume made with a modified version or maybe it just affects certain individuals like that naturally. Del Lago is the only fishlike Plaga creature so maybe that transformation was natural for that specie of animal. And the sacks over the chainsaw guys obviously gave them more protection. Very Happy


Oh, yeah, nothing says bulletproof like a potato sack on your head. lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Untapped Potential - T-Virus Infected Las Plagas   Thu Mar 04, 2010 11:21 pm

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Zombies, whatever the occurance, carry the virus and can spread it to others. And seeing as how they destroyed the City in the first place kind of gives them the right to be considered B.O.W.s.


No, it doesn't. They are not meant for combat. They are very uncontrollable. They become a virus themselves. You can't use them as weapons.


Nite has a point. B.O.W.s are the things like T-103 and the Lickers - genetically modified creatures (usually humans) who can be controlled are are used as weapons. The zombies of the earlier RE series were merely infected with the virus. I suppose they'd be.. victims?

However, the Ganados and Majini of 4 and 5 could definitely be considered B.O.W.s, because with the control plaga they could be easily manipulated into an army or anything else they were needed for.. Very efficient.


Yeah. The Ganados and Majini were BOWs. I'm not even sure if the lickers were though, because I think they may have been an accident too. They are just a super mutated zombie. Really though, even the hunters couldn't really be controlled so I don't even know why Umbrella was wasting their time with that nonsense. The creatures like Nemesis, Mr. X, the Ivans, etc. were the real BOWs.


Lickers were just mutated from zombies, kind of like V-Acts, and they weren't named by Umbrella scientists, they were named by some of the officers at RPD.

However, others like Hunters, Chimera, Cerberus, Neptune, etc., are BOWs. They aren't the desired BOWs that Umbrella, or rather Spencer was trying to create, which is something really powerful that could be controlled(TALOS pretty much being that, and it was controlled by the Red Queen). Most of the Tyrants could be programed with orders, Mr. X, Nemesis(which also had a parasite in it), etc, but those were also faulty, as seen in Outbreak File#2, the T-0400tp that had been reprogrammed to eliminate the Hunter R's in the area, then rebelled and killed it's master.Smile

Anyway, the BOWs I mentioned earlier that were shown in the slideshow in the first game, are BOWs, as the slideshow was a BOW report.

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PostSubject: Re: Untapped Potential - T-Virus Infected Las Plagas   Fri Mar 05, 2010 6:35 am

Spike is right. That is what I have been trying to say.

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